ELP Digest Wednesday, 9 Feb 1994 Volume 4 : Issue 2 The "Eroded by time's rivers" Editions Today's Topics: Meeting Carl, Greg and Keith "Getting crazy" RE: medley question from Paul in Oslo ELP Tour (asking about any 94 plans) Reply to "ELP Tour (asking about any 94 plans)" Question about sheet music Rondo live tarkus live and love beach Emerson quotes and solo works Lake's most underrated song? Forward from rec.music.cd Emerson piano pieces "Tarkus" Ultradisc Fun poked at ELP Re: ELP-related imports sheet music ELP music featured on 'NBA on NBC' Prelude ======= I'll keep the intro short so you can get to the heart of the Digest. Sorry for the delay between issues. I've been quite busy at work and at home. Keep the ELP news, comments, etc. coming. - John - Digest, mailing address, and administrative stuff to: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com ==\ => the same for now ELP-related info that you / want to put in the digest to: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com =/ Back issues available via anonymous ftp: ftp site: ftp.uwp.edu user name: anonymous password: provide a full email address path: /pub/music/lists/elp/digests (There is a separate directory under this point for each year of the ELP Digest (1991 through 1994).) Note: The opinions, information, etc. contained in this digest are those of the original message sender listed in each message below. They are not necessarily those of the mailing list/digest administrator or those of any institution through whose computers/networks this mail flows. Unless otherwise noted, the individual authors of each entry in the Digest are the copyright holders of that entry. Please respect that copyright and act accordingly. I especially ask that you not redistribute the ELP Digest in whole or in part without acknowledging the original source of the digest and each author. Thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 09:17:33 +0100 To: j.arnold@ma30.bull.com From: pal.gjortz@samfunnsmed.uio.no Subject: Meeting Carl, Greg and Keith It waas good to receive John's mailing yesterday ! I was for a while afraid that someone here had played me a very bad joke by hooking me off this network. I would never forgiven them ! I just want to share with you my meeting with ELP. I was immidiately after their concert here in Oslo November 2, 1992. A friend of mine worked for the organizer, and invited my wife and I backstage after the concert. The boys seemed very relaxed, chatting, signing CD covers and nipping white wine. I immidiately senced a good atmosphere there, between the three in ELP like old friends meets. We shaked hands, I and expressed how good it was to see them after all these years. Keith was rather busy in signing CD covers, and just smiled to us. However, I thanked for the Grieg passage (Norway was about to celebrate the 150 anniversary for Griegs birth), and he said he wanted to record the whole piece. A guy present, I took for being a representative for Victory, was very entusiastic. I talk a lot with Greg. He was very nice and polite. (I guess it helped a lot that we were very decrete and relaxed, and didn't push on for contact.) We talked about touring, the concert in Oslo, the concert arena (which he didn't like so much because the audience was so very close), Oslo and Norway. He wanted to reach some sight seeing before leaving the next midday (!). Carl was very expressive and talkative. He showed me some photographs he had just got from fans in Norway, and was very delighted to get this attention. He wanted to hear about this cold country (it was really a harsh and wet fall), and our impression og the concert. I was, of course very impressed by his solo, and even I knew it was rather stupid, I just had to ask him how he managed, and if it was not exhausting. He smiled, looked at me as if I would never beleive it, and said: "I just got it all inside of me, earlier I lost a lot of wheight during a tour, but not anymore" Laughing. Still, I think he looks like a well trimmed sportsman. We chatted for a while, and he was very nice. Well, enough is enough, so we backed out. Greg came, however, after us, shaking hands again, and said it was very nice meeting us. He sure is polite, that Englishman, but it evertheless felt good to hear that. After 22 years of loyalty and pleasure, it was an experience both to see them live on stage and backstage ! It would have been nice that if anyone else on this network who have met them could tell their story. Paul Giortz ------------------------------ Subject: Re: ELP Digest V4 #1 To: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 03:33:40 -0500 (EST) From: brian dodds > but there probably wouldn't have been much point. (Unless > they had also somehow deleted that "get crazy!" scream some guy in > the audience lets out during "Lucky Man." I hate that.) Hahahahaha.. I was just thinking about this, it never really struck me before, but 'Get crazy' is about the most random thing you can shout during a Greg Lake acoustical bit.. :) Bri "Getting Crazy".. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 94 10:32 CDT From: Janell Duxbury Subject: RE:medley question from Paul in Oslo To: J.ARNOLD@ma30.bull.com Paul in Oslo was asking about the medley on Live at the Royal Albert Hall disc. I believe the listed pieces are: Fanfare for the Common Man (from Copland), America (from Bernstein's West Side Story), and Rondo (from Brubeck & influence from Mozart). However are there other short classical excerpts as well? I do not have the disc, but I will tell you what I heard at the ELP concert I went to in February 1993. I heard excerpts from William Tell Overture (Rossini), Flight of the Bumblebee (Rimsky-Korsakov), and Prelude & Fugue in D Minor (Bach). I wonder if this varied from concert to concert? Keith really got to be a show-off on these pieces. I was fortunate to be in the fourth row of a small theatre on the same side as Keith Emerson was performing. It sure adds to the concert when you can see everything close-up. He even gave me a big smile. Afterwards, my ears were affected for days....should have worn earplugs like some others did. I'm not as young as I used to be! I bought myself the box set for Christmas. Most of it sounds glorious on earphones. I could listen to my favorites over and over. I do have one question for anyone to answer. Why does ELP's version of "Jerusalem" always sound sort of muted and dull, even on the new CDs? I never can seem to get it loud and full like so may other pieces. Till next time, Jan Duxbury ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jan 94 23:54:04 EST From: "D. Shalita" <73532.257@CompuServe.COM> To: Subject: ELP Tour Dear J.Arnold I am trying to find out when ELP are going to play in the Boston area again. Could you please point me at the right direction as to where such info may be? Thanks. ------------------------------ To: "D. Shalita" <73532.257@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: ELP Tour Reply-To: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com Date: Fri, 21 Jan 94 09:26:00 EST From: arnold >>> I am trying to find out when ELP are going to play in the Boston area >>> again. Could you please point me at the right direction as to where >>> such info may be? I'm in the Boston area, too. So believe me when I say that if I hear anything, the ELP Digest will know shortly thereafter. Current information seems to indicate that ELP is working on their next studio album and hoping for a summer '94 US tour. To my knowledge, no tour dates have been rumored or announced. The ELP Digest will include any details of a tour once I hear about them. Thanks for asking. - John - P.S. Just a reminder to readers to let me know if you hear any rumors, details, etc. about any ELP album or tour activity. Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: 21 Jan 94 17:27:08 GMT From: Carr-C10973@email.mot.com To: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com Subject: ELP Newsletter As a relative newbie to Internet and such, I was very pleased to see a newsletter for ELP. I finally figured out how to get to the ftp site and read the archives - great job on your part for the newsletter. I had a question regarding the possibility of obtaining ELP sheet music that maybe you could answer. I was wondering if it is possible to get sheet music for various songs such as "The Three Fates", "Karn Evil 9", and others that were not published in their previously released (and now seemingly unobtainable) songbooks. Thanks for any info. Eric Carr Motorola Smartnet Trunked Systems Schaumburg, IL Carr-C10973@email.mot.com (708) 576-8742 voice (708) 538-2252 fax [ Editor's note: Other than the 3 no-longer-published ELP sheet music books, I know of no other source for ELP sheet music. But I'd be very interested i hearing I was wrong. Any readers know more about this? - John - ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 94 09:43:07 -0800 From: "David M. Tratt" To: j.arnold@ma30.bull.com Subject: Rondo live Shawn McCann wrote: > in their entirety and on their own. "Rondo" is an amazingly clean > concert recording for its era ( a fine performace, too!). The biggest I can't agree. I was surprised at the recording quality, even accounting for the 1970 date. I was also disappointed to note that (IMO) this Rondo lacked some of the energy of the '72 tour version (e.g. the 7.28.72, Long Beach, Calif. recording featured on the CD "Rondo" and the 2LP "Celestial Doggie: The Lobster Quadrille"). I can only assume that the rationale for issuing this version relates to available recordings. I'd still rather have it than not, though.... =============================================================================== Dave Tratt (818) 354 2354 dtratt@jpl-cray.jpl.nasa.gov =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 19:22:28 -0500 (EST) From: "GAUSS::KEELEY"@PHYSICS.HOPE.EDU To: j.arnold@ma30.bull.com Subject: tarkus live and love beach I've been helped in the past by some comments in the digest from someone who noted that Tarkus on WBMFttStNE was outstanding. That, along with encouragement from a friend, another Digest guy, BTW (hi, Keith - thanks) prompted me to but the new Victory version. I love it. Tarkus is very cool. This brings up my real reason for writing. In the last issue, someone mentioned that Love Beach was better than he or she remembered. I had a copy of LB on vinyl and thought it was clearly the low point of ELP's recorded output. BUT on listening to "Memoirs of an Officer and A Gentleman" from the RotM I was VERY impressed and wondered why I didn't like it much back in the old days. I see that I'm not alone in this. My question is - is the rest of Love Beach as good as Memoirs or is the first batch of songs as lousy as I remember them? Finally, thanks, John, for putting the Digest together. Its lots of fun ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 10:07:54 pst From: Jim Smith To: J.Arnold@bull.com Subject: Emerson quotes and solo works Hi folks, Not to turn this into a love (beach) fest, but I'd like to thank John and all for the acknowledgement, and thank John again for putting together this digest. I'm glad it exists, and glad to have this forum to express my elpishness. Did anyone see the December 27th Monday Night Football show, where the NFL version of Touch and Go was to be played? I missed it. Shawn McCann wrote: >I think the best show for them to appear on would be Letterman. I'm sure >Paul & Band would appreciate them, and Dave is a much better host than >Arsenio. I agree, that would be the best TV show for ELP to appear on. In an interview in KEYBOARD magazine a few years ago, Paul Shaffer talked about how much he enjoyed it when Keith Emerson appeared on the show (during the ELPowell tour, if I remember correctly). John Arnold wrote: >>From the new liner notes: > record which you now hold...started new album hence "Fool" and "Fire" > ...But was seduced to work with ELP......My song "Heart Of Stone" sung > by Cher tells all! I'm surprised that Pete's work with ELP would take enough time or energy to detract from his own albums. He also wrote for PFM during that time. >Paul wrote: >Has anyone on this network made a complete list of the pieces that are >included in the concluding medley at Live at the Royal Albert Hall. Since you asked, here's the list I came up with while listening: "Fanfare For the Common Man," (Copland) Fragment of main synth (Noble Horns) theme from "Touch and Go," originally reference from "Fantasia on Greensleeves" by Vaughan Williams. Theme from "Blues Improvisation" from "Pictures at an Exhibition." Do any of you know if this theme is from Bill Evans' "Interplay?" Fanfare "America" - Leonard Bernstein, arranged by The Nice, Emerson, and ELP. The Nice arrangement includes a theme from Antonin Dvorak's 9th Symphony ("New World"), fourth movement. "Blue Rondo ala Turk," by Dave Brubeck, arranged as "Rondo" by Emerson and The Nice. "Flight of the bumblebee," by Rimsky-Korsakov. "Toccata and Fugue in D minor," by J.S. Bach Rondo >I would appreciate very much if at least someone knew all the composers >that are in there for short or long periods. That's what I heard. I may have missed some. If anyone knows of other quotes in there, please let me know. >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 94 14:01:11 -0500 >From: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) >To: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com >Subject: Live disc? > > At the local CD store, I ran across an ELP live disc in a >series called something like the "Easy Rider Collection." It contains >"Pictures at an Exhibition" from a 1971 concert, plus a few songs from >The Nice in 1969. Anybody know anything about this disc? > > Dan I've never heard of this. However, wasn't the original recording of "Pictures" from a performance in 1971? And Either or both of The Nice's "The Five Bridges" and "Elegy" were from 1969, and contained live performances (some amazing ones, I might add! I highly recommend the Mercury CD, "Keith Emerson with the Nice" if you haven't heard Elegy or The Five Bridges and want to hear more great keyboard work!). On a similar note, I saw a CD-Christmas Card (you punch the CD out of the card) at a Target store before Christmas which had a laughing rock-n-roll Santa on it, and played "I Believe In Father Christmas." Janell Duxbury wrote: >Duxbury, Janell R. ROCKIN' THE CLASSICS AND CLASSICIZIN' THE ROCK: A > SELECTIVELY ANNOTATED DISCOGRAPHY (Greenwood Press, 1985) > > ROCKIN' THE CLASSICS AND CLASSICIZIN' THE ROCK: A > SELECTIVELY ANNOTATED DISCOGRAPHY: FIRST SUPPLEMENT > (Greenwood Press, 1991) > >Each discography has separate sections on use of classical themes in rock >music, use of rock themes in orchestra music, rock music that sounds >classical due to instrumentation or structure, and classical music >influenced by rock music. They can be obtained from the publisher or >through bookstores. Cost is in $30-40 range somewhere as they are hardcover >and acidfree paper. Fascinating! Unfortunately pricey, but very interesting. I'll have to see if our library has access to it. >Two questions about Keith Emerson's previous group Nice: > > 1) I know "America" quotes from Dvorak's New World Symphony, but what is the >synthesizer break that sounds like Bach? There were several different versions of "America" recorded, so I listened to the one from "Elegy" for reference, to refresh my memory. If you're talking about the 6/8 keyboard break coming out of the verses, that is actually also from Dvorak's New World Symphony, fourth movement. I didn't hear any other Bach-like quotes in there. There _is_ a Bach-like 2-piece romp at the beginning of The Nice's version of "Rondo" (and on the ROTM version) which I don't know the source of. If anyone knows what that is, I'd be very interested in finding out. > 2) I read somewhere that Nice's "War and Peace" on Thoughts of Emerlist >Davjack has a Bach connection. If so, what Bach piece is it? I'm stumped on this one. >By the way, the discussion on Grieg's Hall of the Mountain King was >interesting. In addition to ELP and Rick Wakeman using it, you can add >Electric Light Orchestra, Nero and the Gladiators, Apollo 100, Savatage, >Alligator (featuring Leslie West), etc. A popular piece, and for good reason! It's very amenable to rockification. :-> How many rock versions of Toccata and Fugue in D-minor are there, and likewise, how many of Mussorgsky's "Night on Bald Mountain?" David M. Tratt wrote: >I found the 2CD "Pirates" yesterday (cat. no. KTS 134/135). ... >... >N.B. (This is NOT to be confused with the "Pirates" (cat. no. ACT*4) CD, which > contains material from Puerto Rico 4/72 and Montreal '77.) More fascinating news! Does anyone know of any stores in the northern San Francisco Bay Area that would sell discs such as these? I've never heard of them! adamsp@umbsky.cc.umb.edu (Peter C.S. Adams 7-5263) wrote: >I have only two of Keith's solo efforts, since record stores here don't seem >to carry them. I have the disappointing _Nighthawks_ on vinyl and the insanely >great _The Emerson Collection_ on CD. Unfortunately, the CD has virtually no >liner notes: no credits and incorrect track info, but a nice essay full of >gushing praise. I was very grateful to Mike Borella for compiling the ELP >discography, especially the credits for the Emerson solo albums. I have two >questions: Does anyone have the address for Chord, the UK label that puts >these CDs out? Can anyone recommend (or not) the other solo albums, esp. >_Inferno_? I've heard several different stories about Chord. One is that Chord was made to publish CD's to promote artists who use KORG synthesizers. Another is that one of Keith's producers released the Chord CD's without his permission. I wonder if they're still being published. Inferno, like many others of Emerson's soundtracks, is very dark. I like it quite a bit, though. There is some interesting polyphonic piano work on it. "Mater Tenebrarum" is from Inferno, and that's one of the more upbeat pieces! :-> I think his best solo work by far is on "Honky," which is where "Salt Cay" and "Hello Sailor" came from. I also like his Christmas album a lot, even after Christmas. Best Regards, - Jim Smith smithj@sr.hp.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 94 20:09:25 -0500 From: barrett@hobbes.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) To: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com Subject: Lake's most underrated song? Does anybody else out there find "The Sage" (from PICTURES AT AN EXHIBITION) to be Greg Lake's most beautiful and moving composition? In addition to its lovely, haunting guitarwork, I think the lyrics also succeed as a poem. (A rare occurrence in rock, I think.) I carry the dust of a journey That cannot be shaken away. It lives deep within me For I breathe it every day. You and I are yesterday's answers: The earth of the past come to flesh, Eroded by Time's rivers To the shapes we now possess. Come share of my breath and my substance, And mingle our streams and our times. In bright, infinite moments, Our reasons are lost in our rhymes. I think Lake makes some deep metaphors about mortality, love, and the eternal cycle of life (as in "dust to dust"). Anybody else moved by it? Dan //////////////////////////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ | Dan Barrett -- Dept of Computer Science, Lederle Graduate Research Center | | University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA 01003 -- barrett@cs.umass.edu | \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\///////////////////////////////////// ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 14:46:54 -0500 From: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) To: arnold@thira.ma30.bull.com Subject: Forward from rec.music.cd Newsgroups: rec.music.cd From: dplatt@ntg.com (Dave Platt) Subject: Remastered Emerson Lake & Palmer CDs Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 07:19:16 GMT > A couple of weeks ago, remastered CD versions of ELP's first albums were > released. I haven't had a chance to do a really extensive comparison > with the earlier Atlantic CD releases of these albums... but based on > some listening I did today, I believe that these remastered versions are > distinctly superior to the old ones. > > Based on what I've read on USENET, people don't seem to think very > highly of Atlantic's releases of the early ELP albums. Neither do I... > I was quite disappointed by them. To my ear, the Atlantic discs seem to > have been mastered from Nth-generation tapes which had not aged at all > well. They sounded dull and muddy, as though the recorder heads were > clogged with oxide, and suffered from a good deal of distortion. > > I don't know whether the tapes themselves had deteriorated, whether they > were poor Nth-generation masters to start with, whether the digital > transfers were done poorly, or whether somebody got over-enthusiastic > with NoNoise or some other analog-hiss-removal system. Whatever the > cause, the results were pretty bad.. The CDs sounded a good deal worse > to my ears than my 15-year-old vinyl copies. > > About two weeks ago, I saw the "newly remastered" versions of the discs > pop up in Noteworthy Music's on-line catalog. New versions of > everything from the first "Emerson, Lake, and Palmer" album up through > the two-disc "Welcome Back My Friends..." album were listed. Curiously, > the original Atlantic CDs were still listed, but the newly-remastered > versions cost less. > > I decided to gamble a bit (I just got my expense-reimbursement check for > last month) and ordered the whole lot. They arrived yesterday, and I > spend much of today hacking away at software with classic ELP on my > office stereo (a decent small system but nothing fancy). I could tell > the difference between the Atlantic releases and the new ones, even on a > low-end system. The differences are even clearer on my system at home, > as I found out this evening. > > Briefly summarized: the mud is gone. If you're a fan of classic ELP, > ditch your Atlantic CDs and get these. They're worth the upgrade. > > The labels on the new versions assert that they were remastered from the > original tapes. Based on the sound, I believe it, and I think that the > people who did the remastering (Joseph M. Palmaccio at PolyGram is > credited) certainly earned his pay for the month. > > The new CD versions sound as good to my ears, as my old analog vinyl > copies sound in my memory... and without all the pops & ticks. The > distortion and dullness which plagued the Atlantic versions is greatly > reduced... perhaps entirely gone. The sound is somewhat brighter (but > not excessively or offensively so) and cleaner; it also seems to be > mastered at a slightly louder volume, on some discs at least. They > aren't perfect, I'd guess, but I've never heard these albums delivered > better than this. > > The improvement in sound isn't the only evidence of remastering... the > disc structure has changed, too. On "Brain Salad Surgery", the Atlantic > CD was structured as 8 tracks. Karn Evil 9 is broken into four > tracks, with a track-break and a "fade to silence" between the two parts > of "1st Impression", just as was the case on the LP. > > In the remastered version, there are only 5 tracks. Karn Evil 9 appears > as a single track, indexed into three parts. "1st Impression" is > seamless... it does not break at the "end of side 1 of your LP" point, > but segues directly from part 1 into part 2 without interruption. > > Indexing is used on other discs, as well. The whole first side of > "Tarkus" is a single track with 7 index numbers, and "The Three Fates" > on the first album is also indexed appropriately. Nice touch - I'm not > used to seeing indexing used on non-classical CDs. > > The new versions are easy to distinguish from the old ones. The > shrinkwrap on the jewelboxes has a sticker with a distinctive ELP logo > and the "remastered from the original tapes" legend. The ELP logo > appears as part of the discs' silkscreened artwork, as well. The new > discs have a copyright from "Leadclass Ltd.", are manufactured and > marketed by Victory Music, and are distributed by Polygram; the old > versions bear Atlantic and Warner (and in some cases Manticore) names. > > I don't know whether Atlantic is deleting their older versions of these > titles from the catalog, or whether both old and new version will be > sold in parallel (a bizarre situation, if true!). In any case, if > you're buying, check which one you're being offered. > - -- > Dave Platt dplatt@ntg.com ..or.. ...netcomsv!ntg!dplatt > USNAIL: The 3DO Company, NTG division > 2470 Embarcardero Way > Palo Alto CA 94303 > [ Editor's note: Sorry that it took more than a month to get this in the ELP Digest. It got buried in an electronic mailbox somewhere and I just found it. - John - ] ------------------------------ Date: 1 Feb 1994 09:23:49 U From: "Brian O'Sullivan" Subject: Emerson piano pieces To: "J.Arnold (ELP digest)" Emerson piano pieces Although I'm not a 1st-generation ELP fan, I've been a big fan for about 8 years now. Listening to Keith Emerson inspired me to continue playing the piano (I had given it up entirely for about 3 years). The three KE performances I find most inspiring are: Piano Improvisations from WBMFTTSTNE, KarnEvil9 2nd Impression, and his adaptation of Ginastera's Creole Dance. I doubt I'll ever come close to matching KE's performance of these pieces, but I like a challenge & would like to correspond with anyone who has information on available sheet music or has made some headway in transcribing any of these pieces. I'll start the discussion with information I have now: PIANO IMPROVISATIONS I had read (in Keyboard mag?) years ago that Keith was negotiating the possible publication of a collection of his piano performances which might have included Keith's Concerto and part of the Piano Improvs from WBMF... I guess this never materialized... (Which reminds me, a recent digest mentioned a possible KE autobiography and companion CD -- any news on that?) Piano Improvs has always been a favorite track of mine. In particular, I'm fascinated with the Gulda fugue. I'm glad the box set includes the studio recording of the complete Prelude & Fugue; I like to compare performances. Does anyone know if sheet music exists for this piece (or any of Gulda's works)? I'd also like pointers to recordings of other Gulda pieces. KARN EVIL 9 2nd Impression This piece pretty much epitomizes everything I like about KE: jazz-harmonies, LOTS of energy, improvisation over LH patterns, and a bit of craziness! :-) I don't think any part of KarnEvil 9 is available in published format, but I've been able to transcribe about 50% of the piece so far. The transition sections (between the main theme and the 'steel drum' part) give me the most trouble. Can anyone out there play this piece in its entirety? CREOLE DANCE I've been fortunate enough to hear several of Keith's performances of this piece, from the ELPowel tour through the Black Moon tour, and it's neat to hear how Keith's adaptation has changed during that time (primarily the improv section and the ending). I got a copy of the sheet music to Ginastera's 'Danzes di Creoles' (pardon any misspellings). Keith's adaptation is based on the last 'dance' in this piece -- it's a pretty loose adaptation! I've worked out a rough approximation of Keith's version up to the improv section (a loose approximation of a loose adaptation!). I look forward to hearing from any ELP-list members who are also struggling with (or have mastered ??) these pieces. Regards, Brian O'Sullivan bosulliv@mitre.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 94 09:16:56 -0800 From: "David M. Tratt" To: j.arnold@ma30.bull.com Subject: "Tarkus" Ultradisc The February ICE newsletter says that Mobile Fidelity are issuing an Ultradisc of "Tarkus" sometime in March. =============================================================================== Dave Tratt (818) 354 2354 dtratt@jpl-cray.jpl.nasa.gov =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Subject: Fun poked at ELP To: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com Date: Tue, 1 Feb 94 17:51:26 PST From: Glenn Mandelkern I don't know whether or not this has been mentioned before in the Digest. Recently, I was looking through some books at Tower Records and I found the book entitled "Wayne's World: Extreme Close-Up." This zany book covers the entire alphabet from A to Z with antics typical of Wayne and Garth. For the letter 'E', they have on the top of the page the title "Emerson, Lake & ?" They have taken the cover of the Trilogy album and shown different people taking Palmer's place. Each of these 6 is shown from the shoulders up, just like on the cover. The 6 combinations they show are: 1. Emerson, Lake & Zadora 2. Emerson, Lake & Arnold Palmer 3. Emerson, Lake & Thatcher 4. Emerson, Lake & Ricki Lake 5. Emerson, Lake & Campbell (Wayne) 6. Emerson, Lake & Algar (Garth) Personally I thought it was really hilarious to see the side profiles of some of these people next to EL. [ Editor's note: Thanks for the pointer to this. It hadn't been mentioned in the Digest before but now I'm sure many of us will be looking for it. - John - ] ------------------------------ Date: 4 Feb 94 14:12:00 CST From: "Rick Bean" Subject: Re: ELP-related imports To: "J.Arnold" Here is a message for the ELP listserv: I just received copies of the Pete Sinfield cd "Stillusion" and the first Greg Lake solo album on cd. Both sound great and bring back many memories. I remember stumbling across Sinfield's "Still" album during a weekly visit to the local record shops near campus when I was an undergrad at Illinois State University. By then, I was really into ELP and knew of Sinfield. I thought "Still" would never make it commerically, but what fabulous lyrics. To hear these songs again, along with two other tunes, makes me realize how the time has passed. As far as the Lake cd, I always liked both of his solo works, but probably not as much as his being with ELP and King Crimson. On this album, my favorite song by far is "Let Me Love You Once." In fact, I think this song "ranks" as one of the best, if not the best song, he has done via a recording. Nice and simple, pleasant to listen to. Anyway, this is just my opinion. I hope "Manouvers" finds its way onto cd soon. I have already passed this question by the editor of this fine listserv, now I will "throw it out" to everyone else: Does their exist any cd's by either Refugee (P. Moraz/L. Jackson/B. Davison) or Jackson Heights? Just curious...... Rick Bean librjb@orion.depaul.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Feb 1994 14:00:54 -0500 (EST) From: THE SEA LION Subject: sheet music To: j.arnold@ma30.bull.com My uncle wrote: Hello. I'm interested in trading trancsriptions of ELP music with anyone similarly inclined. I have the three published folios and the original sheet music to "I Believe in Father Christmas". I've also done a transcription to "Karn Evil 9, Ist Impression, Pt II". I'd like to get copies of "Jersualem" and "Knife Edge". Can anyone help? I'm not on internet so please write to: Brian Dudley 7 Sophie Anne Dr Yarmouth Port, Ma 02675 Even if you don't have the music it would be fun to correspond with other ELP fans. If you want, you can write to me (Greg Gerbi) at gpgerbi@amherst.edu and I can get in touch with him. ------------------------------ From: adamsp@umbsky.cc.umb.edu (Peter C.S. Adams 7-5263) Cc: ADAMSP@ns.umb.edu Subject: ELP music featured on 'NBA on NBC' I was watching the intro to Sunday's Knicks-Magic game on NBC, and they had a feature comparing Patrick Ewing and Shaquille O'Neal and their respective playoff aspirations and woes. And much to my surprise, the music they chose was "Black Moon"! It was in fact 2-3 minutes of music, with the vocals edited out, and slightly rearranged. It started with the BOOM-BOOM-BAH bit, and repeated it when the vocal part came along. Then they cut to the end of the song and finally, as the piece was winding down (on a somewhat disheartening note, referring to the two centers' playoff frustrations) they played the slow, quiet synth solo in the middle of the song. (My memory is a little hazy on the details-- I didn't have time to tape it.) It is nice to see people in public positions like ELP. Now if only they'd CREDITED them......... ------------------------------ End of ELP Digest [Volume 4 Issue 2] ************************************