ELP Digest Monday, 17 Oct 1994 Volume 4 : Issue 17 The "Was It Really Happening?" Edition Today's Topics: Hot Seat Released in UK Moody Blues list? In The Hot Seat - The Story Continues Trilogy Midi File Keith Scores IRON MAN cartoon The Future of ELP Bootleg warning! Black Moon and Love Beach Bad influence ?? ELP SHEET MUSIC LIBRARY (updated 10/10/94) Manoeuvres in the Danger Zone Prelude ======= This is only half of my ELP Digest backlog. With luck, I'll send out the next batch tomorrow. Thanks everyone for keeping me informed about what's going on! - John - [ Administrative information now appears at the end of each Digest. ] ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Matthew Edmunds Date: Mon, 26 Sep 94 12:51:43 BST To: j.arnold@ma30.bull.com Subject: Hot Seat Released in UK FYI, In The Hot Seat has been released in the UK today (Mon Sept 26) Matt. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 20:15:14 -0400 (EDT) From: BetteLew To: j.arnold@ma30.bull.com Subject: Moody Blues list? Hi J.Arnold, I got the first ELP Digest yesterday, thanks. Do you know of there is a similar list, or any list, for the Moody Blues? Thanks Bette [ Editor's Note: I don't know of a Moody Blues list. Does anyone else know of one? - John - ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 12:48:16 +0100 From: bjorn-are.davidsen@s.televerket.tele.no To: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com (Non Receipt Notification Requested) Subject: In The Hot Seat - The Story Continues In The Hot Seat has now been released in Norway. I noticed it yesterday when looking at the music pages of the Norwegian paper "Dagbladet", in an ad from the largest CD-store in Norway (some say in Europe...). The ad told that the new CD from (among 8 other artists, ELP last on the list) Emerson, Lake and Palmer had arrived and was low priced at 119 Norwegian kroner (about $ 18, rather cheap for Europe). Today I went and got mesself 3, yessir! It was the American/European edition, with no "Hammer it Out". Some friends are getting their long awaited presents! I doubt if my grand effort will suffice to get the CD on the charts, but if every Digest lurker did the same, then maybe, maybe? BTW, the cover was very nice - STRIKING may be the word - however, unfortunately there was no lyrics. In the store I also leafed throug Ice magazine for October, and noticed that due to be released on October 18th is "Best of ELP" on A&M. I guess this is the same as the old "Best of". Someone must think there still may be money to get out of good old ELP... Bjo/rn Are ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Oct 94 09:36 CDT From: doug@tellabs.com (Doug David) To: j.arnold@bull.com Subject: Trilogy Midi File Someone emailed me a midi file of Trilogy. Like the last one just email me and I'll send you a copy. BTW, when is that damn CD coming out!!! And is there any news on the king of keyboards' hand. Doug ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 14:39:29 -0500 From: daw@tngstar.cray.com (Dave Wright) To: arnold@cyclades.ma30.bull.com Subject: Keith Scores IRON MAN cartoon John, FYI, if you didnt catch this. Fox Saturday Morning has the Stan Lee Marvel cartoon IRON MAN, music is clearly Keith Emerson for theme and incidental. It nice to hear that distinct keyboard style for a change. Dave W [ Editor's note: Now THIS is NEWS. Me thinking I knew "all things Keith" was totally blindsided by this! Sure enough, I searched through TV Guide to find this. (By the way, in the Boston Market, it's on Sunday, 9:30 am, channel 38 (not Fox).) Sure enough, the credits say "Music composed and Produced by Keith Emerson. Co-produced by Will Alexander." Will is Keith's main Keyboard technician. After a close listen, my guess is that this doesn't say "performed" by Keith because he probably sequenced a bunch of main themes, ideas, etc. and has Will tidy them up as needed. Still, very cool and very Keith! Thanks Dave! - John - ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 12:58:40 +0100 From: bjorn-are.davidsen@s.televerket.tele.no To: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com (Non Receipt Notification Requested) Subject: The Future of ELP John, here are some sighs from the far North! As far as I can gather ItHS has so far not been released in the US, while being out in Japan and (at least parts of) Europe for several weeks. Of course Victory (or Polygram) may have some very clever reasons for this (like waiting for the final tour plans), however I fear that there may be a lot more prosaic explanation, quite simple that ELP are splitting again (I identify with the one who felt like being back in 1979). I think it would be no surprise, as there have been a lot of problems (and rumours of problems) the last months. Keith' arm, Greg's voice, Carl not progressing very much beyond his BAM-A-BAM-A drumming, tension between Keith and Greg, Victory in dire financial straits (mainly because of the lack of sale for Yes' "Talk"?), RotM an economical flop (or at least not making enough money to cover expenses) , no new LOOONG piece on ItHS, cancelled tour, several delays of the CD release and very little - if any - official news on anything ELPish. I REALLY HOPE I AM DEAD WRONG, but my guess is that we should put away ALL expectation of more from ELP in this decade!. All the big money n the music industry is at the time (and in all foreseeable future) to be found within pop/rock/dance/rap/techno and definitely not in any Prog! The problem with ELP is their great success in the 70's! They were earning millions of dollars, drawing tenth of thousands to each concert, being in the top ten with most albums and getting a lot of press (even some positive!) and radio coverage (one station playing Pictures complete, from what I have been told). Synth sequencing has replaced creative keyboard players in the pop/rock/etc business, and drum machines have done to same to super percussionist. When ELP rejoined back in 91 I think they (or the record company) once again expected Big Money. When not getting it they have become VERY disappointed, tensions are growing, the songs/tunes/pieces are attempted to be made ever more "popular" and the fun is gone. So even if ItHS is definitely NOT that bad at all, I still think they could have done a LOT better, if they had just returned to reality and worked more like a jazz group, with little commercial expectations, focusing much more on the music, on compositions and what they were UNIQUE at doing in the early 70's. So if ELP are to split, what may we expect? I hope it will give Keith time to concentrate on solo projects which will be better than most of his previous (i still think he has a lot more up his sleeves, vaults and head). Carl will always find a place in a powerpop band like Asia, while Greg perhaps may find it harder to go on (I hope I am wrong about that). Then in 2001 (late spring) I think ELP may come together again, having understood that they should go on just making good music, being relaxed and happy and forgetting about being as popular as Genesis, Floyd, Stones and other of the "dinosaurs". I am looking forward to that!. Bjo/rn Are ------------------------------ From: mathias@tarkus.ocis.temple.edu (mathias thallmayer) Subject: Bootleg warning! To: j.arnold@bull.com (ELP List) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 94 0:45:43 EDT I just purchased two ELP live recordings: Tank Buccaneer Records BUC 046 Anaheim '73 Live In America Best Of Live Series BOLS 020 !!!!!!!!!!!DO NOT BUY THESE!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are just dubbed from Welcome Back (the triple live), except that Tank also material from In Concert but without the orchestra. -- Mathias ------------------------------ From: Maureen@eworld.com To: j.arnold@ma30.bull.com Date: Sun, 09 Oct 94 19:46:19 PDT Subject: Black Moon and Love Beach Re: Responses from the kind gentlemen (and others) to my query about _Black Moon_ and _Love Beach_ , Digest 4/11. Gentlemen: Thank y'all kindly for your replies; an interesting bunch, to be sure. I have a confession to make (and I do not make this lightly, BTW). I am a completely unrepentant heathen pagan: not only do I like _Black Moon_, I like _Love Beach_. I realize this will garner me no brownie points, but that's the breaks. ;-) _Black Moon_ is not what one would expect from ELP, but what did you think you'd get, after such a long hiatus? _Tarkus_ all over again? Classic prog it's not, but it's still a good solid album, and I would be hard pressed to say anything terribly negative about any cut. _Love Beach_ is definitely NOT what one would usually expect from the boys, either, but that's part of its charm. About the only song I was _really_ not thrilled with was the title track; everything else, though, (besides "For You," "Canario," and "Memoirs...") was much better than I had been led to believe. And while _Love Beach_ is usually not the first ELP CD I grab off the shelf, it has certainly not been relegated to the take-it-to-the-used-CD-store category, either. Sla/n, Mo! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 09:46:42 +0100 From: pal.giortz@ad.dep.telemax.no To: "maureen@eworld.com" , j.arnold@ma30.bull.com (Non Receipt Notification Requested) Subject: Bad influence ?? >Are you trying to say I'm a bad influence? Some might say that (??), but not me ! I like "Memoirs ..."..... >I thinks that's everybody's basic complaint about "Memoirs...". It >also seems to be a recurring theme about _Black Moon_. After all these years, I think a lot of old ELPlisters will never be satified. (Re: "For you" !) The guys are only humans, please. And "Black Moon" has a lot of highlights !! >ITHS has been released in Norway, hasn't it? Have you had a chance to pick >it up? Not yet, but I am often checking it up ! Take care ! I am lokking forward to the new Digest !!! Paul E-mail: pal.giortz@ad.dep.telemax.no ------------------------------ From: Tom Isenberg To: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com Date: Mon, 10 Oct 94 12:01:26 PDT Subject: ELP SHEET MUSIC LIBRARY (updated 10/10/94) Our friend Brent Wood said, "It would be great if we could combine our efforts to produce a complete collection of these transcriptions to share. I am planning to do more transcriptions and would be happy to contribute to such a noble enterprise. Let me know if there is any interest . . ." Let's make it so! Announcing the ELP SHEET MUSIC LIBRARY, a central clearinghouse for all of the ELP transcriptions we have to offer each other. Have you figured out the guitar part to "The Sage"? Send it in! Want that funky piano solo in the middle of Karn Evil 9? We've got it for you! Whenever we get new transcriptions, we'll post a new list to the ELP Digest. But feel free to email me for the list at any time. [ELP Digest Editor, please list this line at the beginning of every ELP Digest (my version always gets truncated): "ELP SHEET MUSIC LIBRARY: for a list of free transcriptions, email tomis@microsoft.com."] BTW, I'm looking for the Tarkus piano book, I have the other two. Also have '70s ELP concert tapes for trade, and am looking for '70s video, too. Your list gets mine. Herewith, the first list. Enjoy! --------------------- ELP SHEET MUSIC LIBRARY (updated 10/10/94) Please share your transcriptions with us! We are offering note-for-note transcriptions, typically hand-written labors of love. If you want a transcription, just send me a 50-cent stamp for each piece you want (to cover costs.) If you're outside the U.S., please send $1 for each piece. We will not provide commercially-available sheet music. Please respect the property rights of musicians, publishers, and record companies at all times; it is only just that profits reward and further their efforts. Send your request and/or transcriptions to: Tom Isenberg, 2526 - 175th Ave NE, Redmond, WA 98052, USA ELP TRANSCRIPTIONS You don't have to be a genius to transcribe music, just very patient. First, record the piece (adjusting the stereo and equalizer to bring the piano or guitar part to the foreground) on a microcassette recorder at high-speed and then re-record it onto regular cassette tape at half-speed. That way, everything is twice as slow and exactly an octave lower! Then play the tape and pause (and repeat this over and over and over) as you need until you find the right notes on the piano (or guitar or whatever.) Use a spare tape deck, because this is serious abuse! Write the music out as you go, and have lots of erasers handy. Headphones and an industrial-strength pause button are essential. Yes, it's painstaking, but the end result is worth it! If you have a computer, there are many music notation software programs available so you can then make a nice clean copy (some of these programs even correct your timing and play it back so you can hear and correct mistakes.) Is capitalism great or what? Here's what our library has available for you so far: Keyboard scores: "Karn Evil, 2nd Impression" (first repeated verse before the steel drums) "Show Me the Way to Go Home" (first verse & ending) Guitar scores: Bass scores: Percussion scores: OTHER SOURCES FOR ELP-RELATED MUSIC We don't offer any of the following commercially-available items; they can be special-ordered by any decent music store. KEYBOARD magazine sells back-issues which include ELP transcriptions (typically fragments.) Out-of-print books can be found in used book stores or through book-search services those stores often provide. If you're ordering the classical piece on which an ELP piece is based, make sure you specify that you want the piano score (you probably don't want the full orchestral score.) Also, libraries (especially university libraries) typically have music scores. Updates and corrections to this list are welcome! ??? quotes "The Love of Three Oranges" (by Sergei Prokofiev) ??? quotes "The Pines of Rome" (by Ottorino Respighi) "America" from "West Side Story" (by Leonard Bernstein) is featured in Emerson's live "Rondo" medley "Applied Rythms" book (by Carl Palmer, published by "Modern Drummer" magazine, cat. no. 06630365) Lessons and drum scores. Mostly ASIA but some ELP, including "Jerusalem." "The Barbarian" quotes "Allegro Barbaro" (by Bela Bartok) "Barrelhouse Shakedown" (beginning bars, from KEYBOARD magazine) "ELP" book (published by Warner Brothers) out of print? "ELP Anthology" book (published by Warner Brothers) out of print? "Eruption" (opening fragment, from KEYBOARD magazine) "Fanfare for the Common Man" (by Aaron Copland) "Fugue" (by Friedrich Gulda) is quoted on Emerson's "Piano Improvisations" ("Welcome Back...") "Hoedown" (from Aaron Copland's "Rodeo") "Honky Tonk Train Blues" (by Meade Lux Lewis) "I Believe in Father Christmas" quotes "Troika" from the "Lieutentant Kije Suite" (by Sergei Prokofiev) "Jerusalem" is a traditional English hymn (check an Anglican or Episcopalian hymnal, other old hymnals might have it, too) "Karn Evil, 3rd Impression" (part of organ solo, from KEYBOARD magazine) "Little Rock Getaway" (by Joe Sullivan) is quoted on Emerson's "Piano Improvisations" ("Welcome Back...") "Lucky Man" (ending solo, from KEYBOARD magazine) "Maple Leaf Rag" (by Scott Joplin) "Mars" (Emerson, Lake & Powell) is an adaptation of "Mars" from "The Planets" (by Holst) "Nutrocker" (by Kim Foley) "Peter Gunn" (by Henry Mancini) "Pictures At An Exhibition" (by Modest Mussorgsky) "Rome & Juliet" (by Sergei Prokofiev) "Rondo" (by The Nice) is an arrangement of "Blue Rondo a la Turk" (by Dave Brubeck) "Show Me the Way to Go Home" (by Irving King) "Simple Gifts" (by Aaron Copland) Emerson arrangement in KEYBOARD magazine "Tarkus" book (published Warner Brothers) is definitely out of print "Toccata" is an adaptation of "1st Piano Concerto, 4th Movement" (by Ginastera) -- END - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Sep 94 10:48:03 PDT From: mfraser@rs.com (Mark McCarron-Fraser) To: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com Subject: Manoeuvres in the Danger Zone ELP fans! - Thought I'd contribute a review of Greg Lake's second solo effort "Manoeuvres". Like his first solo album, this one is recorded with Gary Moore and friends. There are even less credits making it tough to know who played what. Listening to this album again after many years, I find I like the songs better than when they were new. The first side, remember vinyl?, contains five rockers with conspicuous help Gary Moore. The second side is mellower and more progressive, with help from Tristram Margetts, Tommy Eyer, (Moore's bandmates) and Tony Benyon (lyrics, I think). The songs are better crafted on this album than "Greg", the fact that Lake wrote most of these tunes by himself may well be significant. Manoeuvres (Lake/Moore) 4:03 This is a very good rock and roll tune, as good or better than any of the rockers on "Greg". Decent, if predictable, lyrics, solid guitar work. Too Young To Love (Lake) 4:05 Another good rocker. A truly funny song about a rock star falling for an underage groupie. You were a stage door dream Come here get in this limousine Just lay down low, nobody's gonna know who you are Paralysed (Lake) 3:57 This is another rock star stunned by someone in the audience tune. It's well done, but I expect more from Greg. A Woman Like You (Moore) 4:33 This is a mellow rock tune. Greg gets some help here on the vocals, presumably from Gary Moore. This one doesn't do it for me. I Don't Wanna Lose Your Love Tonight (Lake/Moore) 3:54 Another rocker. Well constructed, if somewhat pedestrian. It's You, You've Gotta Believe (Lake) 7:10 This song alone is worth the price of the album. Tipping the scales at 7:10 it is plenty long. This is a rich ballad, lots of Lake accoustic guitar work, fine bass playing (Greg's?), excellent keyboard sounds, and the best lyrics Lake has written in some time. This song sounds like it ought to be on Trilogy. It's hard to say enough good things about this song. Definitely one of my all-time favorites! Famous Last Words (Chris Bradford/Andy Scott/David Most) 3:05 This is a cover song in the same vein as "Let Me Love You Once Before You Go". Not my cup of tea. Slave To Love (Lake) 3:23 This is a beautiful song. The lyrics ought to be cliche just looking at them, but Greg makes them work. (My wife and I used this song for the last dance at our wedding!) Again, nifty bass playing, electric guitar that I would bet serious money is Lake, lush synthesizers, and a deep drum thump once a meassure that really sounds great. Haunted (Lake/T. Margetts/T. Benyon) 4:52 A schmaltzy tune, featuring a swell clarinet solo. I Don't Know Why I Still Love You (Lake) 5:16 Another mellow tune, nice dramatic touches. This one has a string section playing along. The words could be better. Still a lot of love sick songs on this album, but not as many as on "Greg". I can completely recommend this album on the strength of "It's You", "Slave To Love", and "Manoeurves" alone. There are other songs here that should strike a fancy as well. As far as I know this album is NOT available on CD. I am hoping that if enough of us plague Chrysalis Records we can inspire them to release it. ;-) Mark McCarron-Fraser mark@rs.com Chrysalis Records 645 Madison Avenue New York City, NY 10022 or Chrysalis Records, Ltd. 12 Stratford Place London W1N 8AC UK LYRICS It's You You've Gotta Belive ============================ Standing alone with no place to call home You look for a friend there aint one the end you can turn to Somehow you learn to Fight like a storm from the day that you're born You duck and you dive but it's all for nothing Nothing's for nothing You must realize it is just a disguise that they wear Nobody cares It's You you've gotta believe There's no one in there to deceive Turn your back to the wall Walk tall you've gotta believe There's no one in there to deceive, but you (keyboard solo) Life is a journey a road without end Littered with hearts that are broken and wasted Times never tasted Though you may search for your dreams in the stars You've got to break out of the bars to escape in the midnight At the moment of midnight You must realize it is just a disguise that they wear Nobody cares It's You, you've gotta believe There's no one in there to deceive Turn your back to the wall Walk tall you've gotta believe There's no one in there to deceive, but you When the world is making you scream and shout and there's nothing left but pride When you're feeling that you're down and out let your conscience be your guide There is nothing left to hide It can never be denied That it's You you must believe Voices of madness, feed us with fear A smile and a tear on the face of confusion One more illusion Don't live for tomorrow, or yesterday's dreams It's all as real as what you feel in the space of a moment All in a moment You must realize it is just a disguise that they wear Nobody cares It's You you've gotta believe There's no one in there to deceive Turn your back to the wall Walk tall you've gotta believe There's no one in there to deceive, but you Slave to Love ============= You may be a King or just a common man some high fashion model with a hollywood tan It just don't matter who you think you are you'll be a slave to love tonight You may have a dream or second sight Yesterday's hero or a star of the night Walkin' on the water there's no land in sight You're just a slave to love tonight You may wear a gun a badge for the FBI a Soho striper or a Soviet spy You think you're the devil, but with those angle eyes you're just a slave to love tonight (cool guitar solo) You may need a war, to get you high A media selling madness to the nake eye Starving in the ghetto or with money to burn You'll be a slave to love tonight You can hold the world in the palm of your hand but it all adds up to nothing if you don't understand Only love can make the world go 'round so be a slave to love tonight (cool guitar solo reprise) ------------------------------ Digest, mailing address, and administrative stuff to: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com ==\ => the same for now ELP-related info that you / want to put in the digest to: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com =/ Back issues are available from the World Wide Web ELP Home Page: URL: http:/bliss.berkeley.edu/elp/ Back issues are also available via anonymous ftp: ftp site: ftp.uwp.edu user name: anonymous password: provide a full email address path: /pub/music/lists/elp/digests/1991/elp-digest-1.* /pub/music/lists/elp/digests/1992/elp-digest-2.* /pub/music/lists/elp/digests/1993/elp-digest-3.* /pub/music/lists/elp/digests/1994/elp-digest-4.* Note: The opinions, information, etc. contained in this digest are those of the original message sender listed in each message below. 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