ELP Digest Thursday, 10 Nov 1994 Volume 4 : Issue 22 The "In the burning, all are yearning... for life to be" Edition (including the "Happy Birthday, Greg Lake!" edition) Today's Topics: G.Lake on Boston TV ELP/YES Rumors Surface Again (news from Prodigy) Greg in Boston (news from Prodigy) Thoughts on Emerson, Lake, and ELP (news from Prodigy) Re: ELP Digest V4 #17 (Initial/delayed reaction to ItHS) Polygram (Canada) Press Release (of ItHS) Lyric Silliness Progressive??? ELP Thoughts. ItHS opinion Re: ELP Digest V4 #20 (Drum transcriptions of ELP) Take A Pebble In the Hot Seat David Terralavoro (and Fanzine for the Common Man) Christmas Album ItHS Review Prelude ======= For the first time, this year we're celebrating Greg Lake's birthday with an issue of the ELP Digest. (In past years, I've always forgotten Greg's birthday after scrambling to get a Digest out for Keith's birthday on Nov. 2.) Well, no more. Here's the latest, especially interesting are the continued discussions about "In the Hot Seat". A number of people start off not liking and then grow to like it. Others like it from the start. Others don't like it. My new non-work internet mail account is almost ready to go. In the next issue or so, I'll be publicizing the NEW way to get ELP information to me as well as the way to subscribe, unsubscribe (perish the thought!), or update your subscription information. Watch this space. Happy Birthday, Greg! - John - [ Administrative information appears at the end of this issue. ] ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Oct 94 12:41:50 EDT From: Brian=Podesta%IRD%UMASS@BANYAN.UMMED.EDU Subject: G.Lake on Boston TV To: arnold@cyclades.ma30.bull.com Greg Lake appeared on WBZ-TV in Boston today as part of a promotional tour for the song 'Daddy' in an effort to raise awareness of the Sarah Anne Wood Foundation. Greg will be at the Hard Rock Cafe tonight (10/27) and at Tower Records on Friday 10/28 at 12:30Pm to sign autographs. After a brief exchange of Greg's reasons for writing 'Daddy', he then performed 'Heart on Ice' live. This unfortunately was cut-off due to the need for a station break. ------------------------------ From: Maureen@eworld.com To: j.arnold@ma30.bull.com Date: Sat, 29 Oct 94 23:55:55 PDT Subject: ELP/YES Rumors Surface Again Once again, *P* provides interesting info: To: MARK LAYMAN (TSXA71A) From: MICHAEL KELLEY (PNXF99A) Time: 10/28 12:10 AM ELP/YES GIGS: Some "behind the scenes" info which may answer some of the speculation: A close friend of mine attended YES's last rehearsal in LA before they left for the "TALK" tour. Tony Kaye himself said ELP would be opening for YES on select dates in the Eastern part of the U.S. The reasoning was this: Keith's hand problems prevented ELP from going out and doing a standard tour, BUT they had a new album ("Hot Seat") to support. The solution: Go out and play short sets opening as a "special guest" with another band who draws the same audience. Kaye said ELP would be doing a 45-minute set. This would have placed minimal strain on Emerson (as opposed to doing ELP's usual 1-1/2- to 2-hour show), and allow ELP to promote a new record. Hope this clears up some of the mystery. I don't know why the plans were scrapped at the last minute. M. Kelley PRODIGY(R) interactive personal service - Date: 10/30 Time: 2:28 AM Sla/n, Mo! Maureen@eworld.com ------------------------------ From: Maureen@eworld.com To: j.arnold@ma30.bull.com Date: Sat, 29 Oct 94 23:56:09 PDT Subject: Greg in Boston Further news from *P*: To: ALL From: BARB KWIATKOWSKI (DDHG27C) Time: 10/29 12:24 PM I've been reading the ELP Bulletin Board for the last six months or so and have gotten alot of information about my favorite group. I've been wanting to write but it seems that by the time I get information on the group its old news. Well, a local radio station here in Boston, WBCN, had Greg Lake as an in-studio guest Wednesday. He was promoting the Sarah Ann Wood Rescue Center; she was abducted last year in upstate New York. Greg talked very strongly about how he first heard about this tragedy on the tv show America's Most Wanted and the impact it made on him, hence the song "Daddy". He also spoke about how he was going to be at the Hard Rock Cafe Thursday evening to raise money for the rescue center. Well, you can imagine where I was, 2 hours early on Thursday night. It was great, no lines, no security. We (my sister who introduced me to ELP 15 years ago)sat with other ELP fans, who were great. After Greg sang "Lucky Man", and "Heart on Ice" he signed autographs, and allowed pictures. I can't believe I have a picture of Greg, my sister and me!! I asked him about a tour in 95', and he told me that things are still up in the air with Keith's hand and told me about the surgery that we all know about by now. He was polite, and was so low-key, I couldn't believe we were actually talking to GREG LAKE. OK. OK. I'll stop rambling but I know all you other ELP fans know how exciting this must have been for us. He also raffled off a Gibson guitar. Also America's Most Wanted was there filming and interviwed my sister and me about our thoughts on Greg's involvement with the Sarah Ann Wood Rescue Center. They said that we actually could be on tv next week- Barb PRODIGY(R) interactive personal service - Date: 10/30 Time: 2:34 AM Sla/n, Mo! Maureen@eWorld.com ------------------------------ From: Maureen@eworld.com To: j.arnold@ma30.bull.com Date: Sat, 29 Oct 94 23:56:01 PDT Subject: Thoughts on Emerson, Lake, and ELP I just find 'em, folks... To: STEVE WILLARD (WRNF92A) From: JOHN LEAVY (LGNP66A) Time: 10/27 8:31 PM Well, Emerson and Lake were always an odd mix, in many ways. For that matter, Lake and Robert Fripp were an even odder mix. For better or for worse, Lake is basically a pop musician (and, I should emphasize, there's nothing wrong with that) who keeps hooking up with classical/art rock types. Just as John Lennon always resented Paul McCartney's success with sweet ballads like "Yesterday," I suspect that Emerson (who fancies himself a "real" artist) resents playing in front of thousands of people who've never even heard of Ginastera or Holst, and just want to hear Greg warble "Lucky Man" for the ten trillionth time. And you're right-Emerson burns out regularly. Think of "Works Volume II" and "Love Beach" (no, come to think about it, DON'T think of those records!). Emerson pretty much submitted outtakes and old crap, and let Lake take over. That's pretty much what happened with the last album, judging from the music. PRODIGY(R) interactive personal service - Date: 10/30 Time: 2:33 AM Sla/n, Mo! Maureen@eWorld.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 10:44:55 -0500 From: DavidS5786@aol.com To: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com Subject: Re: ELP Digest V4 #17 I'm late getting this info out to you, but wanted to say that "In The Hot Seat" shipped on 10/18/94 here in the U.S. and I got my copy that day. First impression...I hated it. However, after listening to it several more times, I changed my mind. It now sits happily in my ELP collection! I just hope the rumors here of their breakup and all isn't true, I'd love to see them again in concert. - Dave ------------------------------ From: aprasad@ccs.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad) Subject: Polygram Press Release To: j.arnold@bull.com (elp) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 94 12:24:59 EST [ Editor's note: I also received this press release from terry kroetsch . Thanks to both Anil and Terry for sending it along. However, I'm only including it in the Digest once. Thanks! - John - ] Here's the official wreckord company bio for the new ELP album: > EMERSON, LAKE & PALMER ARE BACK IN THE HOT SEAT WITH > A BRAND NEW ALBUM > > Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends. Legends of > rock Emerson, Lake & Palmer are back in the saddle again with their > latest studio offering. In The Hot Seat unleashes their trademark > tasteful combination of orchestral arrangements and meticulous > musicianship. ELP's 1994 effort takes listeners on a fantastic > journey which both reverentially refers to their heralded multi- > platinum past and points directly toward a frenetic future. > > From their legions of fans from days gone by and to new devotees > they've picked up since their recent return to recording following > a 13-year hiatus, ELP are geared and primed to take on all comers. > In The Hot Seat is easily the best Emerson, Lake & Palmer record > since their early era successes. Crisp and concise, clever and > complex, this disc is devoid of dross and worthy of your attention. > From the opening fury of "We Have The Power" and "Daddy" to the > searing "Man With The Long Black Coat" and "Street War" to their > ultra-modern re-re-interpretation of "Pictures At An Exhibition" in > Dolby Surround(tm), ELP know what they want and they know how to > get it. "It has been a tremendously emotional time," explains > Greg Lake, "but we are very proud of the end result. There is no > overall concept to the album -- each piece is an individual idea. > It's not another version of `Lucky Man' or Brain Salad Surgery, > it's just another album of original music done by us in our own > inimitable style! The title refers to the fact that we've come > under a lot of pressure over the years, and I'm sure it'll be the > same this time around." > > The band's hearty history reads like a textbook lesson on the last > 25 years of rock. ELP made their public debut at the 1970 Isle Of > Wight Festival, which also featured the Doors, The Who and what > would sadly be Jimi Hendrix's final performance. Comprised of > three visionary virtuosos with revered cult credentials -- > keyboardist Keith Emerson from the scorching late '60s psychedelic > troupe The Nice, bassist/vocalist Greg Lake of the primordial "21st > Century Schizoid Man"-era King Crimson lineup, and percussionist > Carl Palmer of Atomic Rooster and The Crazy World of Arthur Brown > fame. ELP immediately earned their mighty reputation as one of > rock's first true arena-ready supergroups; stretching the > boundaries of the day with a startling array of progressive > instrumentalisms. > > The band's self-titled 1970 debut yielded the acoustic FM radio > standard "Lucky Man" while the following year's smash albums Tarkus > (with the Moog-flavoured "Aquatarkus") and Emerson's transcription > of Mussorgsky's Pictures At An Exhibition established ELP as modern > maestros of the post-Woodstock rock age. Off the heels of their > terrific fourth album Trilogy (1972) with the hit "From The > Beginning" and the subsequent classic Brain Salad Surgery with > "Karn Evil 9" and "Still You Turn Me On" (featuring the album cover > art of Swiss icon H. R. Giger), the triumphant triumvirate departed > on a year-long world tour with 36 tonnes of equipment, a tour > documented on their 1974 triple live package Welcome Back My Friend > To The Show That Never Ends -- Ladies and Gentlemen, Emerson, Lake > & Palmer. > > After two years on hiatus, ELP returned with the stellar Works, > Volume I collection which featured the haunting "C'est La Vie" and > their compelling rendition of Aaron Copland's "Fanfare For The > Common Man" and Works, Volume 2 with Keith's highlight track "Honky > Tonk Train Blues" and Greg's mega hit single "I Believe In Father > Christmas". After 1978's sadly-overlooked Love Beach and 1979's In > Concert, ELP went on sabbatical as a group. And, needless to say, > rock music would never be the same again. > > Bored of punk schlock and pop mediocrity, Emerson, Lake & Palmer > returned to face the fire in 1992 with their Victory music label > debut Black Moon. Last year a world tour, including a dozen dates > in Canada; the release of Live At The Royal Albert Hall and the > four-CD box set Return Of The Manticore with re-recorded material; > and the reissue of ELP's entire catalogue through PolyGram, > including many classic albums available on CD for the first time. > > > From the return of progressive tendencies in modern art rock bands > like Primus, Queensryche and Faith No More, to the unplugged > minstrel shtick of today's faux metal heroes, ELP's legacy is ripe > for re-evaluation. "We're not part of the process of fashion and > vogue," Lake reflects. "ELP is a live performance band. We make > music because we believe in it, not because we're trying to get on > the radio, and that will never change. We realize that progressive > rock doesn't have much of a place in today's world, in fact it's a > terribly dated term. But conversely, we can't go out there and try > to be something that we're not. > > "ELP has always reflected a certain high standard of musicianship > and innovation, and we won't ever move away from that. When people > look back on Emerson, Lake & Palmer in the history books, I want > them to say it was different and that it was original. I honestly > believe we'll be remembered for that. But in the meantime, we're > still In The Hot Seat." (October 1994) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > "In The Hot Seat" is in stores now. > "The Best Of Emerson, Lake & Palmer" is due in stores the week of Nov. 23. ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Anil Prasad aprasad@ccs.carleton.ca ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ ------------------------------ From: Maureen@eworld.com To: j.arnold@ma30.bull.com Date: Mon, 31 Oct 94 14:00:38 PST Subject: Lyric Silliness This was posted on alt.music.progressive today. Have a good giggle!! > Richard Kaczynski (Richard.Kaczynski@f418.n120.z1.fidonet.org)> > wrote: > : Since this newsgroup has been full of talk about a) how > : great/awful the new ELP CD is, and b) whether or not there are > : ANY good lyrics in progdom, I thought I'd share some inspiring > : extracts from the newly-released Japanese 20-bit gold-discs of the > : first three ELP albums. > > : These are the actual lyrics from the CD booklets. As they once > : said in Doonsbury, "I didn't know half this stuff!": > > : From "Lucky Man": > : He went to fight wars for his country and his king > : Barbizona and his glory the people would sing. > > : From "The Great Gates of Kiev": > : Came forth > : Fond love's fire > : Bonny life's fire > > : From "Stones of Years": > : When you speak is it you that hears? > : Are your ears full > : Yeah, you can hear anything abroad. > > : From "Mass": > : The preacher's head of brass > : Ain't never seen so hair on his head. > > : ...The colonel agreed > : Was setting up a lead, he'd be saved > > : ...A bishop rings a bell > : A girl so badly styled across the ground > : Without a sound > : The sign ain't quite a sing > : And English sirens, sprinkly did sound. > > : From "A Time and a Place": > : Live in a dream > : Of buttermilk cream > : You dance on a pea > : Dancing on a pea > > : From "Are You Ready, Eddie?" > : Are you ready, Eddie, > : To pull your fingers down? > > : Are you ready, Eddie, > : To turn your 16 track car > : Are you ready, Eddie, > : A bit of barking is all right > > : Well bark me, Eddie > : Bark me all night long... > > : Now if these aren't great lyrics, I don't know what are! =8-) > > : PS--The discs come in an interesting package, sort of like a digipak > : with a plastic sleeve. I can't decide whether or not I like it. > : Sound wise, there's greater clarity in some parts, but nothing that > : really knocks me out. [Listening to a Rotel CD player w JVC amp > : and Fisher 3-way speakers.] Sla/n, Mo! Maureen@eWorld.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 12:05:09 -0800 (PST) From: The Jedi-Master To: j.arnold@ma30.bull.com Subject: Progressive??? I recently subscribed to the ELP list, and this is my first message. I first heard ELP over a year ago, as my roommate was playing Karn Evil 9. Since that day, ELP has become the band that I listen to the most. Of course, they belong to the category _Progressive Rock_, and I like some of the other bands that have been described as falling into that grouping. At the risk of sounding naive, what exactly constitutes "Progressive" music? At the gut level, I think I understand, as comments regarding certain songs, albums, etc. as being more or less progressive seem to make some sense. I just bought _In the Hot Seat_, and I like it a lot, although some tunes feel rather mainstream sounding (which is something I tend to not associate with ELP).["Change...everybody wants it..."] Thanks for your input, Jori Lance Chisholm jlance@ups.edu ------------------------------ To: J.Arnold From: Ian Francis-1 Date: 2 Nov 94 13:34:46 ES Subject: ELP Thoughts. Hi Digesters, This is my first contribution to the list. I've listened to ITHS about 20 ish times now, and i have generally agreed with other peoples comments. 1. It does sound very much Greg orientated. 2. Carl's drumming could probably have been handled by Cozy Powell better!! (only joking). 3. What's with all the electric guitar!!, it does not sound like Greg and they make no credits for extra musicians on the sleve. It reminds me of a quote from Mike Mancina in the welcome back video; "They rock but it's not the guitar rock.... no rock guitar in the band, that's the quirkyness of ELP". Just one other point, i have a copy of the Video live '77 (the one at the Montreal olympic stadium), and during Pirates the vocals and the picture go out of phase, this is quite distracting. Has anyone else noticed this problem or is it unique to my copy (British PAL copy). Ian Francis. "On a westward wind we live as we plese" ------------------------------ From: berg@areaplg2.corp.mot.com Subject: ItHS opinion To: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com Date: Wed, 2 Nov 94 11:23:12 CST I read the reviews here of In the Hot Seat and I had some hope that it might have some true ELP class material. It does not. The group should have changed the name to LEP with Lake as the dominant member and Palmer imitating Cozy Powell on drums. If you like Lake you may like this album but if you buy ELP albums to listen to Emerson you won't want to buy this one. Totally uninspired keyboard playing - is this really Emerson? I know he was going through rehab but maybe he could have sequenced difficult parts. At least the cover art is better than Love Beach. It looks good on the self which is probably where it will stay. Steve Bergstedt | "I want a 3-mile long trumpet with keys that berg@areaplg2.corp.mot.com | open steam valves along the sides, and midgets Notator Logic for Mac | running up and down the legnth banging on the K2000S KS32 U220 DX7II | insides with ballpeen hammers. " -je Motorola CCR&D Schaumburg | ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Nov 1994 12:06:26 -0600 (CST) From: ST40V@Jetson.UH.EDU Subject: Re: ELP Digest V4 #20 To: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com Where can I find drum transcriptions of Carl Palmer? Can we start a section on the FTP site for drum transcriptions? Mark [ Editor's note: There is a book by Carl Palmer called "Applied Rhythms" that has some "official" transcriptions. I'm willing to put some drum transcriptions that ELP fans do on the Web or FTP site. Just send them along and I'll get them where they belong. - John - ] ------------------------------ Subject: Take A Pebble To: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com Date: Wed, 2 Nov 94 10:47:37 PST From: Glenn Mandelkern In the ELP Digest Volume #20, Gary Katch wrote this: _Take a Pebble_ (_Emerson Lake & Palmer_) piano improvisation quotes entire theme of J.S. Bach's _Two Part Invention #1_. This got me thinking about a section of "Take A Pebble". There is this section in the second piano improvisation (after the guitar part in D) where Emerson plays some chords and arpeggios. This is the section where the 8-note repetitive pattern breaks. In the black music book "Emerson, Lake and Palmer", the music "conveniently" omits this section and says something like "improvise over left-hand pattern." In "Welcome Back My Friends TTSTNE", the same chord/arpeggio sequence appears again during part of Emerson's Piano Improvisations just prior to where the hi-hat is heard starting. My questions are --does anyone know if this section is quoted from somewhere? --by chance, has anyone here transcribed that missing link? Thanks! BTW, if your mail bounces, send it to gmandel@megatest.com. ------------------------------ From: eschles@merle.acns.nwu.edu Subject: In the Hot Seat To: j.arnold@ma30.bull.com Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 03:05:31 -0600 (CST) I've read some reviews through the list, and now that I've finally gotten the album, I must say how thoroughly displeased I am with the new album. I mean, this is downright bad. I think the only songs of ANY worth on the album is the first track (which name I can't recall but it is actually really good), and "Give me a reason to stay". Nothing else sticks out at me at all. And god, whatever song that begins with the drum machine, blecccch! The Pictures remake is pretty good though. But that doesn't count for new material now does it? Tis funny because I really like/liked Black Moon, but this one is just plain bad. And I've listened to it several times already. EVAN No taglines necessary. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 13:13:09 +0100 From: bjorn-are.davidsen@s.televerket.tele.no To: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com (Non Receipt Notification Requested) Subject: David Terralavoro Hi John! [ Editor's note: The first part of this message has to do with some information on what ELP has played live over the years that we're going to eventually get in the ELP WWW site. - John - ] Yesterday, I got a positive reply from David T. on publishing the live tracks list on the ELP Home Page! That means you can use what you already have got on that one! At the same time he sent me a message for the digest! Here it goes: Re: ELP NEWSLETTER and FANZINE FOR THE COMMON MAN WRITE TO: David Terralavoro 43 Spring Street Wappinger Falls, New York 12590 U S A US residents send a self addressed stamped envelope, Canada/overseas (non-US) send a self addressed envelope and an International Reply Coupon for current newsletter and information on obtaining back issues of the fanzine "Fanzine for the Common Man". Re: Message from David Terralavoro Hello subscribers! I have been reading your letters and conversations on the board for some time now. I enjoy the reviews and articles very much! I would really love to chat, but I do not have a modem. In a couple of my issues of FFTCM there is an article series on "The History of ELP" (Pt1, 2 - redone for the 1994 reissue of #4, and part 3 & 4). I'm sure readers would enjoy the reading as well as answers to some of the questions I've seen asked on the board. I feel it is unfair to list prices on the board so rather, please write me at my address. No phone calls please - I have a family here. Hope to hear from you! PS - Some people who subscribe to Prodigy etc already have seen the fanzine. Best David Terralavoro --- Bjo/rn Are ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 10:55:28 -0500 (EST) From: Jed Levin To: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com Subject: Christmas Album I recently saw a Japanese CD release of a Christmas album by Keith Emerson. I was told it's only available as a Japanese import right now. It was very expensive! SOmeone else here will probably come up with more info on this though. Jed Levin [ Editor's note: I got my copy from Eye and I productions (they do some of the programming for Keith's keyboards) a few years back when it was advertsied in Keyboard magazine. Before going for the import copy, you may want to try to call them and see if they still sell it. Their address and phone number is typically in any issue of Keyboard magazine. If your local magazine shop doesn't get this, try a music store that caters to the keybaord/synth set. - John - ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:32:45 PST From: mfraser@rs.com (Mark McCarron-Fraser) To: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com Subject: ItHS Review John - Thanks for doing such a great job with the ELP Digest! ;-) This is a slightly different take on reviewing ItHS, hope you like it. - Mark ELP fans! I've been listening to ELPowell lately. Actually, I mixed up a tape of ItHS, Black Moon, ELPowell, and RoTM for fun and comparison. Several things are becoming clearer. Greg's voice is NOT what it was. (I think I like his voice best on ELPowell.) Keith is definitely playing better since ELPowell. The solo at the end of Hand of Truth is the hottest thing he's done in a while. Carl's drumming is better on ItHS than it was on Black Moon, but still very like Powell's drumming. The percussion seat in ELP should have a lot of leeway as Lake holds down the bottom end. So it's silly for Carl or Cozy to play the beat. (I've always wanted to hear Bill Bruford play with Greg for this reason.) Greg's guitar playing on ItHS and RoTM is pretty nifty. So what's to complain about ItHS? The songs are too short. Not enough introductions or proper endings, a couple of songs fade out. :-( Yeuch! Our heros stretched out quite a bit more on Black Moon and even ELPowell. Part of progressive music is taking the time to put all of those cool bits together and letting the song develop, instead of cramming everything into the 3 to 4 minute single format. Also, some of the songs are not really progressive, or even very close. Specifically, Black Coat, Thin Line, and Reason to Stay. (Leave aside for the moment whether or not you like the songs.) This makes the album somewhat uneven. Black Moon is a more coherent album and in that sense is better than ItHS. On the other hand, Hand of Truth rips! Daddy is a very powerful tune, more so than anything else they've done lately. (I thought that Farewell to Arms was powerful too, but in a less personal way.) The instrumental section towards the end of One By One is some of the best _group_ playing ELP has done in quite a while. I find Heart On Ice altogether more satisfying than Footprints in the Snow or Affairs of the Heart. So basically, I like ItHS. Some of the songs could be better, and some should have been left off, but there are some really good tunes on it. (So you can see what I was comparing, these are the songs in the order I mixed them. I was trying to compare specific songs in some cases. I spliced Changing States and Black Moon together.) Hand of Truth Change Better Days Burning Bridges Gone Too Soon Daddy Heart On Ice Farewell To Arms Learning To Fly/The Miracle Changing States/Black Moon One By One Street War The Score Lay Down Your Guns Touch And Go (RoTM) Hang On To A Dream (RoTM) Schitzoid Man (RoTM) Paper Blood (LaRAH) Can't wait Wait another minute For my fifteen minutes in the Sun as always, comments, flames, death threats gladly accepted, - Mark mfraser@rs.com ------------------------------ Digest, mailing address, and administrative stuff to: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com ==\ => the same for now ELP-related info that you / want to put in the digest to: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com =/ Back issues are available from the World Wide Web ELP Home Page: URL: http:/bliss.berkeley.edu/elp/ Back issues are also available via anonymous ftp: ftp site: ftp.uwp.edu user name: anonymous password: provide a full email address path: /pub/music/lists/elp/digests/1991/elp-digest-1.* /pub/music/lists/elp/digests/1992/elp-digest-2.* /pub/music/lists/elp/digests/1993/elp-digest-3.* /pub/music/lists/elp/digests/1994/elp-digest-4.* Note: The opinions, information, etc. contained in this digest are those of the original message sender listed in each message below. 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